I just finished reading this story and I must agree that it is beautiful and amazingly well written. I like every thing in here, except for the part where Jost almost rapes Bill (I find Jost/Bill pretty disgusting), but at least Bill ends up in Tom's arms, fact that is pretty more seductive and which caught my attention. I must say that I loved reading the descriptive paragraphs. I can see that you had informed yourself before writing about this subject. All in one, the last scene was absolutely breathtaking ; I'm not usually into Slash but this definitely helped into developing my tastes. As for our homework, I don't find this as rape, since Bill really enjoyed being there with Tom and he did not felt any sort of pain, neither mental nor physical. I am looking forward to reading the next chapter!

Author's Response: I'm always glad to get new readers. Thanks for all of your comments.

I have to disagree and say that I see it as rape. At the very beginning Bill imeadiately tries to leave the room, and then he tries to avoid Tom. He says no repeatedly. He was not "really enjoying" being there with him. Pleasure doesn't negate rape, and we don't know what mental pain Bill my have been experiencing (it's a little hard to agonize over something if you're having an orgasm).

I am estatic to hear that as a typically non-slash reader you were still able to enjoy my story! (I started out as anti-twincest too! Now it's all I read).

Thanks so much for all of your nice comments and critiques.

That's hard to say but technically it is rape. But Gosh, that was so hot.

Author's Response: Thanks for your opinion, I agree.

Rape is sexual intercourse of any kind one doesn´t want. And that´s clearly the case here. Bill said "NO" often enough, if it hadn´t been rape Tom wouldn´t have proceeded from that on at all. Also that Bill closed his tights in the end and Tom had to spread them with force is a sure giveaway. Just the fact Tom rubbed Bill´s penis long enough to get him moan and to get him orgasm doesn´t mean Bill was willing.

Sometimes it´s even worse for the victims cause they feel bad for feeling the enforced pleasure.

But I think that was what you had been aiming at. So yeah, a big success!!

Tom is the prince and from his POV what he did was his every right. Given that he was really considerate and cared about Bill´s pleasure a lot.

I wonder how both will go on now.

Author's Response: You understand my intentions with this scene perfectly. Tom did rape Bill, but he doesn't see it that way. Thanks so much for your review.

but i dont want homework mommmy

Author's Response: Then just don't review. I like actual comments on my stories.

I have to go with ya it was rape even after tom made him come and the are going for round two bill still tells him no just because tom did not hurt him does not make it okay bill said no and no means no

Author's Response: You're right. No means no. But that doesn't mean that no won't eventually change to yes (in later chapters).

it's coercion, for sure, but i appreciate that the prince was so concerned about bill's pleasure. i guess i'd call it dubious consent at "best". still a very hot scene :)

Author's Response: Great. I wanted it to be rape, but like, in a nice way. LoL that makes no sense.

At least you thought it was hot. I tried very hard to make it so.

I will counter each of your points with some excuses:rnrn1. Jorg's ugly, old, and scary. Tom is sexy and convincing.rn2. I like to think Mahtob was a lot more damaged than Bill. rn3. Bill's a lot sexier, ie...WAY more temptingrnrnJust wait till you read the next chapter, you might see some things differently then.rnrnrn

this is fun discussing. I hope you don´t mind.

Well, Mahtob "only" got her back whipped severely - Bill was left at the torture house to get killed there. What you described with his back torn open and wax having been poured onto it, MUST BE WORSE than the girl´s damage. xD

So yeah, I really wonder how Tom will act now. Can´t wait to find it out!!

Author's Response: I totally don't mind. This is fun, talking with you. You're actually helping me see the holes in my story.

I don't think I used the words "torn open" to describe Bill's injuries. He had cuts all over his back, for sure, but I'm imagining that they were a lot less severe than Mahtob's (I understand that this isn't exactly communicated through the text).

The wax certainly aggrivated it, but the heat may have actually helped the wounds to heal faster, if you think about cauterization and all that. Of course that would also make them scar worse...

And Mahtob was just a lot more EMOTIONALLY damaged. I envision her as having been extremely timid and skittish. Just really neurotic and stuff when Tom first got her.

And don't forget, Tom acquired Mahtob purely out of pity. He acquired Bill partly because he had been drawn to the boy before (also because Mahtob was going apeshit).

Thanks so much for the feedback!

It´s interesting that you envision rape as involving screaming and begging. Rape can be a lot of things you know.

Well, that was the way Bill acted when Jörg tried something.

And especially in Tom´s position. He´s used that everyone comes to his bed willingly, so it would be really extreme to force someone like that. Not everybody has that in him, it´s one thing to say it but another to go through with it.

What about that other slave-girl? Tom saved her from a guy who tried to rape her and then had her whipped severely. After he had saved the slave, he respected her and was ready to leave her alone for months until she would open op to him.

That´s basically the same with Bill. Jörg had tried to rape him and had him tortured. And now Tom wants to be the one to go through with the rape?

Hm, a bit unfair to Bill, but that´s how life is.

Author's Response: You're right. Damn you for pointing out my inconsistencies. I will counter each of your points with some excuses:rnrn1. Jorg's ugly, old, and scary. Tom is sexy and convincing.rn2. I like to think Mahtob was a lot more damaged than Bill. rn3. Bill's a lot sexier, ie...WAY more temptingrnrnJust wait till you read the next chapter, you might see some things differently then.rnrnrn

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Ah, now that's just harsh Tom, you can't rape Bill. He's so cute and innocent XD
Aww, him walking in on Hessa and the sultan and getting all embarrassed. He's so sweet, without being a pain in the ass. This is awesome :D

Author's Response: I'm glad Bill comes across that way. And hey, I'd be grossed out too if I witnessed two nasty oldies getting it on. Wouldn't you?

No, Tom won´t just rape Bill. If he´s already uncomfortable with Bill being ~unhappy~, then he won´t go through with fucking a screaming and begging boy against his will.

But what is he going to do? Will Tom try to seduce Bill (maybe as a long-term-plan?) or is he going to give up the thought of sex with Bill at all?

I vote they spend some more time together. Or Bill tries to escape.

Author's Response: Yeah, Tom's kind of uncomfortable with Bill being unhappy. But just a little. And what do you think Tom's gonna do with these emotions, pay attention to them? Of course not! In typical guy fashion, he's going to ignore them.rnrnIt's interesting that you envision rape as involving screaming and begging. Rape can be a lot of things you know.