Date: 09/27/13 06:34 pm Title: Patience and Rewards
yeah it kinda does
Author's Response: LOL, random review is random. XD
Date: 09/26/13 10:29 pm Title: Safety Nets and Words
Thanks for the update
Author's Response: Very welcome :D
Date: 09/26/13 07:51 pm Title: Safety Nets and Words
This was intense!
Author's Response: Thank you! I hope you enjoyed it!
Date: 08/12/13 09:02 pm Title: Giving and Recieving
You're an extremely talented writer. I absolutely love how your stories aren't extremely simple and dull. Your writing is more complex and throught provoking. GOOD job! :D
Author's Response: Thank you so much for your lovely review! It makes me happy that you're enjoying my fic :D I hope you enjoy chapter eleven!
Date: 08/12/13 07:06 pm Title: Giving and Recieving
You're an extremely talented writer. I absolutely love how your stories aren't extremely simple and dull. Your writing is more complex and throught provoking. GOOD job! :D
Author's Response: Thank you so much for your lovely review! It makes me happy that you're enjoying my fic :D I hope you enjoy chapter eleven!
Date: 08/12/13 06:04 pm Title: Wanting, Needing, Denied
You are the most awesome being to ever exist. I absolutely love you for updating.
Author's Response: I'm pretty cool but the most awesome :P High praise indeed XD Thank you so much! I hope you still think that after chapter eleven!
Date: 08/07/13 05:22 pm Title: Giving and Recieving
Hello,
This chapter is really important to me because it gives all sense to what they live together.
I wasn't sure Tom really wanted to live that (especialy after reading the prequel) but you explain very clearly how he feels and what he expects from it.
Tom's thought process with the praise 'good boy' was really the best way to explain why he takes i all and loves it .
Love between them is so strong and you show that Bill is really taking care of Tom and really knows what his twin wants .
I'm relieved to see that Tom can use is safeword and Bill will stop immediately. And the stuggle Tom leads against himself not to disappoint Bill is the best proof of love and Bill sees it, he knows that.
One other thing : I couldn't clearly see the aim of Bill's determination, why he did continue to say no after making Tom think he was going to give in and what he expected from him. Because Tom had begged his pardon so many times, he had said that he was really in pain so many times.
But what Bill wanted was more than that and you make it clear when he finally talks to him.
Seeing that they will evocate all the points that brought the situation to its height comforts me in my opinion about their love and mutual comprehension.
I would love a chapter where they are in everyday life to see how they cope with this Dom/sub relation (because it can't totaly disappear, can he ?) and how Gustav and Georg see them now. I would love to see how their mutual attitude betray themselves.
Well this chapter is for me like feeling totaly reasured. There is no abuse but so much much love !
I could say a lot more (if you get to understand my basic english). But anyway, even if it has raised many questions (or because it did), I want to underline that it was a real pleasure to read you. Your style, the way you make emotions rise and grow with Bill's and Tom's, the strength of the teasing when Bill plays with Tom, even when it hurts, I felt upside down when Tom begged and murmured and imaginate Bill totaly in control of them both...
I don't know if you have in mind to write the end of their delicious night but I will come and see regularly because itreally is worthwhile !
Kisss - kty
Author's Response:
Thank you so much for your lovely reviews, especially this one. So detailed! I think the prequel to this doesn't exactly sit square to this story because it's from Simone's point of view, so I'm glad that Restricted Freedom can iron out some more of those nuances for you. I will take on board your wanting a chapter on how the twins live in everyday life too!
I'm very happy that you're reassured by this chapter, and that you're still sticking with it to the end! It's good that you feel it so deeply :D I hope to have another chapter up soon.
Thank you again!
Date: 08/06/13 10:54 pm Title: Giving and Recieving
I don't know if I've reviewed yet, but anyways, congrats with the feature! I went up to see if my story was still up there one day and then this one was there instead and I was like 'WHO DAFUQ?!' I added this to my tracked as soon as I saw it up there though. c:
I love the simplicity of the power Bill has over Tom, it's as if he's bewitched and comes running to him with the snap of his fingers. Sometimes I get urked though and I feel such empathy for the boy, because Tom doesn't know know how to use his words. It's like because of that, Bill takes advantage of his power; give him and inch but he takes a mile. I don't feel like their relationship is unhealthy, but sometimes I just want to scream ABUUSSSEEEE! But I guess that's just where the BDSM/Kink comes into play..?
I usually don't read stories like this because I get frustrated so easily and the category just isn't... eh. You get it. I guess I'm not used to it though and it's not what I expected cause I'm totally in love with it! c:
I guess that this fic is my first step to the nitty gritty dirty shit xD I just hope that Bill can tell Tom he loves him more often, and take the stick out of his ass. Maybe Bill should be sub for once? Ehhh? *Hint* c;
Once again, I'm loving it, and update soon, Love. You're doing so well with this and even though I don't even know you I just want to all be huggy and cuddly and tell you that I'm proud of you and shit c:
*Huggles*
Author's Response:
Thanks for the congrats on the feature :D Was a moment of shock but hey. Little blue ribbon is awesome :D
I think you’re right in saying that the power over Tom that Bill has is very absolute. And it’s also true that Tom doesn’t know how to use his words - and as the entire story is basically couched around that fact - he should have used his words in the third chapter, and because he didn’t, he got put on Restriction - it’s awesome that you picked that up. And rest assured, Bill’ll come back to that as well.
I’m a little iffy on saying that that urge to shout abuse is ‘just noob to BDSM’ because it might not be - idk what you’re picking up on exactly, so unpacking that is difficult. But this relationship is intense. Really really intense. It’s based around the idea of Total Power Exchange, where you choose to give up control to someone else completely and wholeheartedly, which kind of goes against a lot of what we’re taught about independence and freedom of choice so a strong reaction is inevitable. If you want to unpack some that feeling and let me know, so I can clarify/explain things a bit better, then let me know!
Welcome to the dark side is what I suppose I should say :P
I do take on board what you say about Bill communicating more about his feelings and telling Tom he loves him more often. I think I’ll definitely bring that in in the final chapter, with plenty of aftercare so we see a different side to the Bill that’s been here throughout.
But I want to address your saying about Bill being bottom since it’s.. quite... significant, in a way. In this story - this whole ‘universe’ including the prequel - Bill is a Dom/Top. Die hard, to the bone. His entire personality and attitude is not submissive, and never will be. Round peg, square hole, you know? Happy to explain more, if you need it, but that’s the basics.
I do have other stories where Bill is a sub (of a sort) like Pink Silk Bitch, so if you’re looking for a different Bill, that’s the place to go. But in this ‘world’, the submissive role is Tom’s. And just Tom’s.
*pets* Thanks for reading, and I’m glad to have you along for the ride. And I don’t know you, but I do love hugs, so there we go.
Hug away! *grins*
Date: 08/06/13 11:02 am Title: Giving and Recieving
So....
I've spent the last few days reading this and I probably shouldn't have started it after midnight when I was tired and all that, but I did anyway. I wanted to read this featured story about a theme that has always intrigued me and I went ahead and clicked and started reading. I started with the prequel cause my mind just works that way. If you have a prequel, I will read that first.
Did I think it would prepare me for what was coming? Maybe a little, yeah.
Oh no, I was so very, very wrong.
I think I have traveled with Tom though his gradual acceptance, through his rage, his frustration, through his neverending WANT of Bill and everything OF Bill that he can possibly TAKE because he just needs to come so fucking badly. To give that tight-knit control and trust that Bill knows exactly what he's doing and that in the end, it was simply all for Tom's greater good.
I still wasn't prepared for it, but the slow descent into it has made me so AWARE of myself and how little control I have and how something like this would make some sense if I had someone that I could trust enough like this. But I digress.
I still wasn't ready, not even a little bit, but I am so rooting for Tom here and when we reach this final and complete submission, I am going to cry and rejoice too, because it will feel good to finally let go.
Author's Response: *snugs you tight* I have nothing to say to this review except thank you so damn much. And I'm so so so so so happy that you're enjoying it, and that it's something that you're rooting for. *hugs you very much*
Date: 08/05/13 01:59 am Title: Giving and Recieving
I haven't been here in a month, I think. Because of the trip and... reasons. I still don't now if I stay or go. So many reasons, options... BUt I wanted to see what you did with this fic.
I understand why people not knowing what this is all about don't get it. Those people don't just see how control and GIVING IN can be a relief, being in the hands of someone so completely can be safe and comfort. Trust, the ultimate goal very few reach. It's familiar only to those who dare to explore it far- just like twins here. Therefore don't let people bring you down with this. To each their own and understanding the dynamics of D/s beyond S/M-type of slapping is something you just need to study in order to understand. It's obvious how much Tom loves Bill and Bill loves him. There's nothing wrong.
Author's Response: I'm glad that even if you're going, this fic is enough to make you stay - even for a bit. I'm not sure of your reasons, but I can at least be glad of that small bit of staying power. I think that people confuse BDSM/D.s relationships with abuse because it's a fine line between them when it comes to consent and limits. But what Bill and Tom have is firmly outlined in that realm of BDSM/D.s, rather than abuse. I think this next chapter will explain that a little better. I hope, at least. I'm glad of your encouragement through this story, and through the uh... teething problems of the last chapter. I hope this chapter is also to your liking. Thanks for all the reviews to date! :D
Date: 08/03/13 07:13 pm Title: Patience and Rewards
I meant SnowStormSkies' opinion. Sorry. It's, like, quarter to two in the morning in here and I'm seriously tired.
Author's Response: And by that, I mean no longer continuing it on here. You don't have to delete. I just don't think everybody else needs to see fighting/arguing, since you raised points in your orignal review.
Date: 08/03/13 07:09 pm Title: Patience and Rewards
@glitzyfangs.
I didn't stop reading it - as a matter of fact I have finished doing that just now, and was checking to see if the author has responded to my review case in which I am curious as to what she thinks of the points I've made.
I'll settle for your response, for the time being ( I reaaaaaly want to read Freedom's opinion, though... ).
I'm not whining. I'm merely stating some common sense BDSM facts which I'd like to believe accurate.
You have no basis on calling me "basic" in regard of my sexual preferences. I don't recall you having ever been in my bed, so you wouldn't really know. Don't be a fucking bully.
Isn't "claiming" a form of expressing one's opinion?
DON'T compare abuse to BDSM. I am sincerely sorry for what's happened to you, but giving abuse as an example already is getting is wrong. As I have stated in my first review, BDSM is to be practiced within some limits that neither the dom or the sub should surpass.
Using safewords is one of them.
Imagine yourself as a dom. The sub gives you the liberty of restraining them, hurting them, pleasing them etc. at you own will - as a dom it is your responsability to see to both their welfare and pleasure, and you can't do that if the sub in cause WON'T. FUCKING. TELL. you whether the treatment they are receiving is too harsh for fear that it won't sound right or it would hurt your feelings or it strips them of their control, as Tom often rationalises throughout the story - it's wrong! Contrary to abuse ( since you made a parallel between the two ), the sub is not the weaker one, nor the one with less power; the sub has the power to stop the dom whenever things degenerate or even when they start to as much as get bored. In BDSM the control is equally shared between the people involved, and the dom MUST provide the sub SECURITY, which Bill doesn't do!
In the last chapter, when the total power exchance happens ( thing that really got me snorting in amusament - the entire story revolvs around total power exchange. The moment when your dom choses what you eat / wear / when you pee / whom you fuck - THAT'S total power exchange. Tom doesn't get a say in any of the decisions Bill makes because Bill's got the final word ).
Moreover, in the last chapter, it is pointed out that Bill seeks Tom's full trust or something along the lines - let me tell you something, you DON'T start a BDSM relationship until you have full faith in your partner, until you can trust that they will not hurt you beyond what you can take and that they will point out when things are too much. Tom blacks out - he's in such a distorded state of mind. He obviously doesn't like enemas and begs Bill to listen to him, begs him to let him make his point ( see the scene right before the spanking ) and Bill shushes him. That's abuse, because, guess what, abuse does, too come in many shapes and forms .
What I don't really get, though, is where I have stated that I don't like BDSM in my first review - "I get that Total Power Exchange is a very difficult pill to swallow. It's not exactly a kink that I'd feel totally comfy with exploring myself, but that doesn't make it wrong." As a matter of fact, I love BDSM and all that it involves, and have done so for a very long time. Long enough to gain some knowledge about it.
And I am not kink shaming, you superficial individual. Have you even read my review before jumping at my throat? Of course you haven't. You just got riled up and took the chance to defend your friend. I have just re-read it and I can't find a single fucking phrase in which I am kink shaming and you know why? BECAUSE I LOVE KINKY SHIT.
You're also overlooking the fact that I have EXPLICITLY stated that I really dig this story for it is very nicely written, the plot is intriguing and Bill isn't a bottom.
But the BDSM in here is not BDSM - there is a difference between "Bill, please..." and "Bill, please!!!" and it usually involves a few years in prison on "Bill" 's part.
Believe what you want, take my comments for granted or not, whatever. I don't really give a fuck ( well, I do. This is a long-ass comment, after all... But beyond this, I don't really care ). I tried my best to make a point, I know criticism is sometimes a bitch but it is my belief that whatever form it may come in ( and mine was a really amiable one ) is to be taken constructively. This is not what BDSM looks like, let's not pretend Bill is not an abuser - he is. I would have loved your story even more if the author'd just skipped the "loving, caring relationship" crap and the "don't label something you don't understand" when, clearly, she doesn't really understand it herself. Don't romanticize this story. It's not something we don't understand because the twins have a strong bond and similar shit. We understand twincest because of that - this, however, is manipulation.
Date: 08/03/13 05:55 pm Title: Giving and Recieving
Hello,
I love this story ! With the search on the Web on the subject I anderstand that Bill and Tom are really in love. I like the style of your writting because I can feel the strength of their love. It can seem strange because you started the story with a punishment but it is only the way they live their relation and you show that they need that. Just I would like to know what Bill feelings are. When he punishes Tom and sees him cry. How his body feels because he is all for Tom and in a way he restrains himself too because of the punishment.
In S/s stories, the feelings of the one who obeis are usually described but not those of the other.
I hope you give us next chapter soon, it's a wonderful story.
(sorry for my english from a french girl. Hope you will have understood anyway)
Kisses - kty
Author's Response: Oh, you did websearches? I'm glad my story made you curious enough about it! I understand your need to hear Bill in this, somehow, and I hope to bring him in a little more later so we can get his POV on things, and to reflect what is happening with Tom. Chapter eleven is up and ready for you if you would care to look :D And your English is fine :D I only speak a little french so if I tried to reply to you in French, it would be much worse :D *hugs* SSS.
Date: 08/03/13 03:55 pm Title: Patience and Rewards
Hi. I have just finished reading the 6th chapter and, wile this story is, so far, on my top 5 favourite tokio hotel fiction works out there, I feel like you have kind of overlooked the whole premise of your character building, which is love. You didn't explicitly indicate it in either the first six chapters or the author's notes, but does Bill love Tom? Because if he does the way you depicted their BDSM relationship is wrong by ANY standards. This whole Dominant/Submissive thing is something that bothe sides are supposed to enjoy, and Tom clearly doesn't, but is supressed into accepting it and not safewording for fear of worsening his punishment. He is abused. Bill is an abuser, he doesn't love Tom. A dominant ( let alone a full time one ) should see to their sub's both physical and psychological well being, and a sub should ALWAYS point out things that may harm them in any shape or form or make them in any way uncomfortable beyond their capacity to cope with it, because such relationships are based on trust and both parties do it for pleasure.
If Bill doesn't love Tom, he's an abuser. If Bill loves Tom, either he's psychotic, or your story is inacurrate.
Author's Response: I'll respond to your review later on in response to your other comment further up, but I'm gonna ask you and glitzfangs nicely to take this off my reviews, okay? Thank you.
Date: 08/02/13 01:17 pm Title: Denied and Frustrated
I just found this fic and it's absolutely amazing.
I love the way they are together because it's clear that Tom wants that, needs that. He loves Bill and doesn't see his life without this submission.
I would like to know how they started.
I love this story, really !
Author's Response: Thank you for the ALL the awesome reviews you've given me across all my stories. I'm glad that you're enjoying the story so far. I think you've read 'Walk the Line' which is the sort of prequel to this but I do have another prequel in the works too. I like expanding universes. Bill does love Tom too, as Tom loves him - but their life is based around this submission/dominance balance, as you pointed out. Tom doesn't see his life without it.
Date: 08/02/13 01:35 am Title: Giving and Recieving
"making Tom watch him go to town on himself" *votes for this* :)
This is absolutely lovely - you described it very well in the author notes. This is a loving relationship. Total power exchange. It's beautiful.
Author's Response: I think I've said this before but seriously - THANK YOU SO MUCH - for all the help, encouragement, and advice you've given me, both about this story and everything else (including personal life). It's been a great help to me. :D And I hope you enjoy chapter eleven! (Also, those author notes still need changing. >.> Apparently, not all are happy with them.)
Date: 07/31/13 07:16 pm Title: Giving and Recieving
grrr
update soon please?
I think im starting to understand...but that thing where Bill has Tom sit down blind folded and witht he gag in his mouth, and bill goes to sleep while Tom is just waiting there, thats kinda a bit much, but i love this fanfic.
Author's Response: Chapter eleven is now waiting for your reading pleasure! Regarding that scene with Bill leaving Tom alone in the middle of the floor, I've got a few comments on it. Let me ask you this then - would it make any difference if I reminded you that this story is from Tom's POV, and he doesn't exactly know what Bill did. Maybe Bill sat on the bed and watched Tom but didn't talk. Does that change how you think about it? Thanks for the review though!
Date: 07/31/13 05:05 pm Title: Giving and Recieving
Bill must have amazing self control, being so turned on and having Tom so eager - absolutely desperate - to do anything for Bill, and yet Bill still makes Tom (and himself) wait. I can't wait to read when they both finally get what they desire, when Tom's days of waiting and wanting and needing are rewarded. I can only hope the climax (both the story's climax and Tom's) are as explosive as anticipated.
Author's Response: Bill's got iron clad self control, that's for sure. Tom? Not so much :P Thank you for the kind reviews and words so far on all my stories but especially this one. Chapter eleven is up for your reading pleasure so I hope you enjoy it too!
Date: 07/31/13 12:44 am Title: Giving and Recieving
I feel like a bundle of nerves set ablaze!
Author's Response: Chapter eleven is up and waiting for you! I hope you enjoy it if you decide to read :D Thank you for your review!
Date: 07/30/13 11:40 pm Title: Giving and Recieving
If that's not torture what is :P
Author's Response: Believe me, this is not torture :P I can write that if you would prefer? XD Thanks for your review!